Sunday, December 30, 2012

The parts arrived!

The shipping was fast, and all the parts arrived in tip-top shape. The motor is much smaller than I expected, just like the controller. It looks like I will have plenty of room in my chassis to fit all the parts. I did forget to order a charger though, so I bought one off amazon that should be here soon. In the meantime, I will be ripping the gas engine from the frame. I put my keys in the photo to show the small sizes.

Thursday, December 6, 2012

The setup for my ride

I have chosen my final set up for my project. A 36 volt system with 1000 watts, which equals about 1.3 horsepower. But horsepower isn't everything. In terms of electric engines, torque is where they get their power, and the system I chose should be plenty fast. I plan on ordering on Monday, and installing as soon as possible. Getting the wiring down is going to be the hard part. Below is my order:

12 Volt /12 Amp Hour / 20 Hour Rated Battery (Enduring)12 Volt /12 Amp Hour / 20 Hour Rated Battery (Enduring)
BAT-101224$35.50$106.50
Battery / Motor Connector (2 - Pin)Battery / Motor Connector (2 - Pin)
CON-102310$0.50$1.00
2 Pin Modular Connector2 Pin Modular Connector
CON-102300$0.50$1.50
3 Pin Modular Connector3 Pin Modular Connector
CON-102302$0.50$1.00
1000W Motor - 36 Volts  with Mounting Bracket  (Style: MY1020-B)1000W Motor - 36 Volts with Mounting Bracket (Style: MY1020-B)
MOT-106165$92.00$92.00
36 Volt Controller (Model: CT-660B9)36 Volt Controller (Model: CT-660B9)
CTL-101205$30.00$30.00
6 Pin Modular Connector6 Pin Modular Connector
CON-102306$0.50$0.50
Sub-Total:$232.50


Monday, November 5, 2012

An Interview With a Fellow Fabricator!

A guy named Justin contacted me when he saw this blog. We talked, and he turns out to have a past experience with building motorized 2-wheeled vehicles. So here is an interview we had!


Chris: Good evening Justin, I'm glad we could talk!
Justin: Hello, Chris.
Chris: So, lets start things off. Tell me about your projects that you've done before?
Justin: My first project was modifying a mountain bike to accept a gasoline engine. It was a good learning experience and motivated me to learn how to machine simple parts, weld, and also overcome a number of design obsticals.
Justin: My two most recent projects involved modifying a Jawa 210 moped to accept a larger, more powerful engine and modifying a Honda C70 Passport to accept a (again) more powerful GY6 type engine.
Chris: So what first inspired you to add an engine to something that as built to take man power?
Justin: I bought an ugly scooter and decided to modify it to go faster. I realized that this vehicle was limited by its design, so I decided to transplant it on to a different frame. I also have a love of early 20th century board-tracker style motorbikes, so this was an attempt to create something that looked like that. Moreover, I just thought it would be awesome.
Justin: Also, pedaling is for suckers.
Chris: Haha, that is very interesting. What types of problems did you run into in this transformation?
Justin: The largest problem I had was how to tansfer the power from the engine to the rear wheel. The drive sprocket was on the left side of the engine, but the bicycle's rear wheel sprocket was on the right side. I ended up fabricating a jack-shaft transmission near the pedal area to accomplish this and also get a more usable gear ratio.
Chris: How much planning did you do? Was it easier to encounter problems as they came, or plan ahead with what you knew?
Justin: There was very little long-term planning. I wanted to preserve a certain amount of asthetic appeal and performance, but that was the extent of it.
Justin: I'd more or less build until I reached a problem, and then solve it.
Justin: Technical plans are largely useless if you don't have the tools to make use of them.
Justin: And, they usually go out the window as soon as you reach a problem.
Chris: So up to today, what problems have you had? Would you say it is easier to build a vehicle around an engine, or an engine around a vehicle?
Justin: The engine is the deciding factor in most cases. Especially with gasoline engines. Engine mounts and the geometry of the exhaust system, intake, ground clearance, and the location of the power output shaft are the designer's straightjacket.
Justin: Electrical engines are more forgiving because they have no intake, exhaust or oil supply. Also, they can be mounted to nearly any flat surface.
Justin: Wires are flexable and can be made to any reasonable length, which definitely helps.
Justin: Electrical motors are also smaller and lighter, generally.
Chris: So you agree with me in the idea that electric engines are a better option than gas?
Justin: Hah.
Justin: It depends on the criteria
Justin: electrical engines are not without their problems. I'd say, however, that for a 'first project' an electrical motor is a better, easier idea.
Chris: But  the fact that electric systems have a larger choice of charging options, wind power, solar energy, and hydroelectric energy, does seem better than gas, correct?
Justin: If it's an environmental issue, yes I absolutely agree. Logistically, it's currently easier to fill a tank with gas than it is to find a charging station.
Justin: I'm hoping that society will move toward electric vehicles and that public charging stations become more commonplace.
Chris: You have a valid point there. Hopefully within the next 10 years we will be more dependent on electricity and less dependent on oil.
Justin: We can hope. As it stands, the major limiting factor for electic vehicles is the battery.
Justin: The expense, size, weight, lifespan, and storage capacity of modern batteries is not all together that good.
Chris: That is where we are today. Lead acid batteries are stable, cheap, and thus prevalent, but very large. Lithium power is a better solution, with its much smaller size, but it is unstable, known to explode, and is "broken", per say, if you drain it to 0%.
Justin: Ah, yeah. that's about accurate.
Justin: Lithium batteries like to stay charged, that's for sure.
Chris: Well, I guess this is the point in the interview where you get to ask me any questions you might have.
Justin: I'm unprepared :(
Justin: haha
Justin: I don't think i really have any.
Chris: That what I wanted to hear!
Justin: Oh, just a few tips for your project... make sure that the sprocket on the motor's drive shaft is aligned with the sprocket on the rear wheel. If it's not, it's a good way to throw a chain. Also, don't design it to have a tight chain, as is... try to engineer in a chain tensioner instead. maybe rip one off of a bicycle.
Justin: hard learned lessons, believe me
Justin: haha
Chris: Actually, when I bought my frame, it was designed with a tensioner, which was a real plus.
Justin: excellent
Justin: chains stretch over time, so it's a must... unless it's like a motorcycle that has an adjustable rear wheel.
Justin: that accomplishes the same thing. I'm assuming that your's doesn't.
Justin: well, anyway. email me if you have any more questions or whatever.
Justin: oh, what's the link to your blog? I haven't seen your progress in quite a while
Chris: Thank you for your time Justin, and I will contact you again if I need help.
Justin: no problem

It was a good chat, and Justin is a smart man. I look forward to referring to him for help!

Tuesday, October 2, 2012

It Lives!

So we got the engine running, and I made a short video about why I am doing this project, and a summary of my plans. Enjoy:

Sunday, September 30, 2012

A Donation, and Some Progress on the Mini-Bike!

So today, I picked up a donation from a customer of my Dad's landscaping business. She sold these Chinese scooters for a short period of time, and had these 2 scooters as parts donors. She didn't need them anymore, so she graciously gave them to me. The first thing I realized about these scooters is that the motors are centrally located within the wheel. Thus far, I have noted that I can most likely use the 12 volt batteries, throttle potentiometer, charger, and key start. The controller is configured for a dual motor system, so it's unusable. I also tried starting the mini-bike today. The bowl in the carb was leaking, turned out that the O-ring was put on backwards. I reassembled the carb, no more leaks, the spark plug was sparking and fuel seemed to get to the cylinder, but it still wouldn't start. My Dad and I will probably head down to the local lawn-mower shop tomorrow to ask for advice to get the engine running. I will update tomorrow if I make any progress.


The Batteries. They are those green boxes and they are very small, which will make it easy to mount on the mini-bike. 
The throttle potentiometer. It also has a built in switch, which I might use instead of the key system if it doesn't work out. 
Keys would be so cool and secure to use on my mini-bike. Also adds to the realisticness of the whole idea of electric transportation.

Sunday, September 23, 2012

The search for the mini bike is over!

Here's the bike! The seller couldn't get it running when we got to his house, so I was able to run the price down to $160, which is a great deal for its condition. The frame was repainted, with minor scratches showing the old paint. Tires, brakes, and the seat are all pretty much new. After getting home and trying again to start the engine, I concluded that a gasket had blew in the carb, and fuel was leaking and not getting to the engine. The fuel was leaking on the frame, and in my garage. That's why I don't like combustion engines, you can't just flip a switch to get going like an electric system can. Anyways, I finally got my frame!


 It actually feels a lot bigger when you're riding it. The seat is very long, so you can really sit all the way back on it to be comfortable.


This is the disease. The only cure? A transplant.